Yes, I know all this tweaking could be annoying. I promisde you, there are not fifty or a hundred one line entries waiting there back in perpetuity for you. And by the way, I will indeed save the archive from the blogger driven quick and dirty journal to the quick and dirty link already posted on the coNNected main page. Might as well keep all the quick and dirtys together. Yes, I am prattling and rambling, but I need a nice big chunk of text here to be sure everything is going to fall the way it should. My big complex nested table design really is a pain in the ass. It was an experiment, and I just happened to like the results. My previous design technique had involved pixel pushing, to some extent. Speaking of pixel pushing, I want you to see Nigel's work. He's impressive.